The Interconnectedness of the Brain, Behavior, and Immunology and the Difficult to Overstate Flaccidity of The Correlation Is Not Causation Argument
Posted May 12, 2011
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I’ve gotten into a lot of discussions online about the vaccines and autism; generally with very poor, if not nonexistent, evidence of having changed any opinions, but relatively strong evidence ( p > .001) that persisting in making my arguments can get you called ‘an antivaccine loon’, ‘idiot’, someone who engages in ‘Gish Gallop’, or the worst insult I’ve received so far, ‘anti-science’. While I am really torn on the vaccine issue, I am certain that both peripheries of this debate are at least somewhat wrong in the conclusions that they’ve drawn from the available evidence. I do believe that lots of parents have witnessed a very real change in their children post vaccination, and I also don’t believe for a single second that vaccines are the cause of an epidemic of autism. It’s a mess and I’ve been poking around the Internet almost five years into journey autism and from my eyes, it hasn’t improved any in the past half decade. This is very sad.
That being said, while I do think we need to have a rational and dispassionate discussion about what our existing vaccine studies can and cannot tell us about autism, I’m really concerned about the fact that the vaccine wars seem to have inoculated otherwise intelligent people from any semblance of intellectual curiosity regarding the immunological findings in the autism realm. That’s a problem, because there are lots of things other than vaccines that can modify the immune response, various environmental agents and cultural changes that are relatively new, and ignoring immunological findings in autism because they happen to intersect with the function of vaccination is a huge, massive, supernova sized disservice to what history will view us poorly on, refusing to perform honest evaluation due to fear and the comfort of willful ignorance.
Here, in this post, I will make the case that this lack of curiosity on immunological findings in autism is either born of a lack of understanding on how much we know about the ties between the immune system and the brain, or alternatively, originates from a deep seated desire to avoid honest interactions. This isn’t to make the case that vaccines can cause autism, or even that the immunological disturbances observed in autism are causative, but rather that an obstinate refusal to consider these as possibilities is the sign of someone who cannot, or will not accept, the biological plausibility of immunologically driven behaviors despite a constellation of evidence.
One of the things that jumps out to me why the autism population might be a subgroup of the population susceptible to changes as a result of immune dysfunction (and thus, potentially adversely affected as a result of vaccination), is the sheer volume of evidence we now have available to us indicating an altered immune response, and indeed, an ongoing state of inflammation within the brain in the autism population, and most strikingly, repeated observations of a correlation between the degree of immune dysregulation as a propensity of an inflammatory state, and the severity of autism behaviors. Again and again we’ve seen that as markers indicative of an inflammatory state increase, so too, do severity of autism behaviors. Not only that, but there are instances wherein the decrease of components known to regulate the immune response decrease, autistic behaviors are more severe. Subtle shifts in either the start or the resolution of the immune response seems to affect autistic behavior severity in the same way. I know coincidences happen all the time, but that doesn’t mean that everything is a coincidence.
We also have a large number of studies that tell us that in vitro, similar levels of stimulation with a variety of agents cause exaggerated or dysregulated production of immune markers in the autism population.
A large percentage of the time that I mention these findings, usually within discussions with an origin in vaccination, someone decides to educate me on one of the most rudimentary scientific axioms:
Correlation does not equal causation.
It must be stated, the above statement is absolutely true. Unfortunately for the people for whom this accurate, but simplistic catchphrase comprises the entirety of their argument, it completely ignores a wealth of research that tells us in very unambiguous terms that there is incontrovertible evidence that crosstalk between the immune system and central nervous system can modify behavior. The research indicating a relationship between immune dysregulation and autism does not exist in a vacuum, but rather, is only a tiny fragment of evidence, mostly accumulated within the last few years, that tells us that the paradigm of the past decades, that of the brain as a immune privileged organ without communication to the immune system, is as antiquated as refrigerator moms and a one in ten thousand prevalence.
From a common sense, why didn’t I think of that standpoint, the best example of the interaction between the brain and the immune response is the old standard, just plain old getting sick. You live in the dirty world, you pick up a pathogen, you get sick, and suddenly you get lethargic and you start to run a fever. But is it the pathogen itself that is actually making you feel like staying in bed all day?
What is being learned is that it is not necessarily the microbial invader that is causing you to get tired and feel sore, but rather, that your decreased energy levels are centrally mediated through your brain, and the triggers for your brain to start a fever include molecules our bodies use for a wide range of communications, including immune based messaging, cytokines. Some of the most common cytokines in the research to follow include IL-6, IL-1B, and TNF-Alpha; so called ‘pro-inflammatory’ cytokines. Researchers have been plugging away at just how the immune response is capable of modifying behaviors, i.e., inducing, sickness behavior for a while now, at least in terms of autism research. From 1998, we have Molecular basis of sickness behavior:
Peripheral and central injections of lipopolysaccharide (LPS), a cytokine inducer, and recombinant proinflammatory cytokines such as interleukin-1 beta (IL-1 beta) induce sickness behavior in the form of reduced food intake and decreased social activities. Mechanisms of the behavioral effects of cytokines have been the subject of much investigation during the last 3 years. At the behavioral level, the profound depressing effects of cytokines on behavior are the expression of a highly organized motivational state. At the molecular level, sickness behavior is mediated by an inducible brain cytokine compartment that is activated by peripheral cytokines via neural afferent pathways. Centrally produced cytokines act on brain cytokine receptors that are similar to those characterized on peripheral immune and nonimmune cells, as demonstrated by pharmacologic experiments using cytokine receptor antagonists, neutralizing antibodies to specific subtypes of cytokine receptors, and gene targeting techniques. Evidence exists that different components of sickness behavior are mediated by different cytokines and that the relative importance of these cytokines is not the same in the peripheral and central cytokine compartments.
The first sentence in this abstract references a practice that is extremely common in studying the immune system, intentionally invoking a robust immune response by exposing either animals, or cells in vitro, to the components that comprise the cell wall of certain types of bacteria; lipopolysaccharide, or LPS. LPS could be considered a sort of bacterial fingerprint, a pattern that our immune systems, and the immune system of almost everything, has evolved to recognize, and correspondingly initiates an immune response.
Because this is a conversation that frequently has an origin in vaccination, essentially the act of faking an infection, it is salient to remember that the animals or cell cultures aren’t really getting sick when exposed to LPS; there is no pathology associated with whatever type of bacteria might be housed within a cell membrane containing LPS. Usually, when the body is exposed to a gram negative bacteria, and the consequent LPS exposure, there are also effects of the bacteria that interact with the organism, but by only incorporating the alert signal for a bacterial invader, we can gain insight into the effect of the immune response itself; there isn’t anything else to cause any changes. This means that similarly to LPS administration, straight administration of these pro-inflammatory cytokines are similar to the result of getting sick with a pathogen, at least as far as the immune response is concerned.
In the above instance, administration of LPS, or simply cytokines, had been shown to be capable of causing reduced food intake and ‘decreased social activities’.
Later in 1998, Central administration of rat IL-6 induces HPA activation and fever but not sickness behavior in rats (full version), was published wherein the authors report that central administration (i.e., directly into the CNS), of cytokines in isolation (IL-6) or in combination (IL-6 + IL-1B) were capable of inducing altered HPA activation, fevers, and sickness behaviors. Effects of peripheral administration of recombinant human interleukin-1 beta on feeding behavior of the rat was published a few years later, and observed that peripheral administration (i.e., not the CNS) of IL-1B could affect how much a rat ate, with sucrose ingestion being consistently altered during periods of sickness.
Jumping ahead a few years, a review paper Expression and regulation of interleukin-1 receptors in the brain. Role in cytokines-induced sickness behavior reviewed how cytokines participate in sickness behavior, Interleukin-6 and leptin mediate lipopolysaccharide-induced fever and sickness behavior examined the interactions of IL-6 and leptin in sickness behavior, and Behavioral and physiological effects of a single injection of rat interferon-alpha on male Sprague-Dawley rats: a long-term evaluation reported “these data suggest that a single IFN-alpha exposure may elicit long-term behavioral disruptions”.
Much more recently, Sickness-related odor communication signals as determinants of social behavior in rat: a role for inflammatory processes more elegantly found that behavior was modified by LPS exposure, and that this effect was neutralized by concurrent administration of the anti-inflammatory cytokine, IL-10. Similarly, Inhibition of peripheral TNF can block the malaise associated with CNS inflammatory diseases observed another distinct means by which interfering with the immune response could attenuate the effect of faux sickness, in part, concluding, “Thus behavioral changes induced by CNS lesions may result from peripheral expression of cytokines that can be targeted with drugs which do not need to cross the blood-brain barrier to be efficacious.” In other words, what is happening in the periphery, outside of the protective boundaries of the blood brain barrier, can none the less manipulate behaviors that are controlled by the brain.
There are tons, tons more studies like this, but the point should be clear by now; it is accepted that you can achieve some of the same behaviors the come alongside illness, such as fever and lethargy, without the presence of an actual bacteria or virus; all you need is for your brain to think that you are sick.
While it must be acknowledged that the behavioral disturbances observed in autism are a lot different than feeling the need to watch TV all day, these types of studies were among the first clues that the traditional view of the CNS as a separate entity within the gated community of the blood brain barrier needed revision.
Measuring how much sugar water a rat drank is great stuff, but the reality is that we have conservatively a gazillion studies telling us that disorders that manifest behaviorally have strong, strong ties to the immune system; and once we begin to understand the vast scope of these findings, the utter frailty of “correlation does not equal causation” becomes painfully clear to the intellectually honest observer.
The big problem I found myself with in crafting this posting was that the sheer volume of studies available really makes a complete illustration of the literature impossible; I started looking and pubmed nearly puked trying to return to me a listing of all of the things I wanted to summarize. So here is some of the best of the best; to keep things interesting, I thought I’d only include findings from 2007 or later as a mechanism to show just how nascent our understanding of the connections between the brain and the immune system really are.
Initially, we can start with a condition that nearly everyone agrees is diagnosed based on behavior, depression. It turns out, the number of findings establishing a link between immune system markers and depression is wide and deep.
Here’s a great one, Elevated macrophage migration inhibitory factor (MIF) is associated with depressive symptoms, blunted cortisol reactivity to acute stress, and lowered morning cortisol, which reports, that MIF can modify HPA axis function and is tied to depression; a particularly compelling finding considering well documented alterations in HPA axis metabolites in autism, and the fact that increased MIF has also been found in the autism population, and as levels increased, so too did autism severity.
Here is part of the abstract for Inflammation and Its Discontents: The Role of Cytokines in the Pathophysiology of Major Depression (full paper)
Patients with major depression have been found to exhibit increased peripheral blood inflammatory biomarkers, including inflammatory cytokines, which have been shown to access the brain and interact with virtually every pathophysiologic domain known to be involved in depression, including neurotransmitter metabolism, neuroendocrine function, and neural plasticity. Indeed, activation of inflammatory pathways within the brain is believed to contribute to a confluence of decreased neurotrophic support and altered glutamate release/reuptake, as well as oxidative stress, leading to excitotoxicity and loss of glial elements, consistent with neuropathologic findings that characterize depressive disorders.
Somewhere along the way, researchers discovered that some anti-depressants can exert anti-inflammatory effects, for examples of these findings we could look to Fluoxetine and citalopram exhibit potent antiinflammatory activity in human and murine models of rheumatoid arthritis and inhibit toll-like receptors, or Plasma cytokine profiles in depressed patients who fail to respond to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor therapy, which concludes in part, “Suppression of proinflammatory cytokines does not occur in depressed patients who fail to respond to SSRIs and is necessary for clinical recovery”.
In Investigating the inflammatory phenotype of major depression: focus on cytokines and polyunsaturated fatty acids, the authors report that, “The findings of this study provide further support for the view that major depression is associated with a pro-inflammatory phenotype which at least partially persists when patients become normothymic.” A nice review of the evidence of immunological participation in depression can be found in The concept of depression as a dysfunction of the immune system (full paper).
Moving forward, we can look to schizophrenia, we have similar findings, including Serum levels of IL-6, IL-10 and TNF-a in patients with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia: differences in pro- and anti-inflammatory balance, which observed an imbalanced baseline cytokine profile in the schizophrenic group; findings very similar in form with An activated set point of T-cell and monocyte inflammatory networks in recent-onset schizophrenia patients involves both pro- and anti-inflammatory forces. Similarly, the findings from Dysregulation of chemo-cytokine production in schizophrenic patients versus healthy controls, (full paper) which states, in part:
Growing evidence suggests that specific cytokines and chemokines play a role in signalling the brain to produce neurochemical, neuroendocrine, neuroimmune and behavioural changes. A relationship between inflammation and schizophrenia was supported by abnormal cytokines production, abnormal concentrations of cytokines and cytokine receptors in the blood and cerebrospinal fluid in schizophrenia
Their findings include differentially increased and decreased production of chemokines and cytokines as a result of LPS stimulations in the case group. Of particular note, a similarly dysregulated immune profile of cytokine and chemokine generation has been found in the autism population in several studies.
We also have several trials of immunomodulatory drugs in the schizophrenic arena that further implicate the immune system in pathology, including Adjuvant aspirin therapy reduces symptoms of schizophrenia spectrum disorders: results from a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial, a ‘gold standard’ trial which found that, “Aspirin given as adjuvant therapy to regular antipsychotic treatment reduces the symptoms of schizophrenia spectrum disorders. The reduction is more pronounced in those with the more altered immune function. Inflammation may constitute a potential new target for antipsychotic drug development”. A similar clinical trial, Celecoxib as adjunctive therapy in schizophrenia: a double-blind, randomized and placebo-controlled trial , another gold standard trial, which also had findings in the same vein, “Although both protocols significantly decreased the score of the positive, negative and general psychopathological symptoms over the trial period, the combination of risperidone and celecoxib showed a significant superiority over risperidone alone in the treatment of positive symptoms, general psychopathology symptoms as well as PANSS total scores.” [Celecoxib is a cox-2 inhibitor; i.e., anti-inflammatory, i.e., immunomodulatory]
What about bi-polar disorder? More of the same, including, The activation of monocyte and T cell networks in patients with bipolar disorder, or Elevation of cerebrospinal fluid interleukin-1ß in bipolar disorder, which reports, in part, “Our findings show an altered brain cytokine profile associated with the manifestation of recent manic/hypomanic episodes in patients with bipolar disorder. Although the causality remains to be established, these findings may suggest a pathophysiological role for IL-1ß in bipolar disorder.”. These studies were published in April and March, 2011, respectively.
Brain tissue from persons with bi-polar disorder also showed increased levels of excitotoxicity and neuroinflammation in Increased excitotoxicity and neuroinflammatory markers in postmortem frontal cortex from bipolar disorder patients (full version), and authors report differential cytokine profiles depending on state of mania, depression, or remission in Comparison of cytokine levels in depressed, manic and euthymic patients with bipolar disorder.
Another disorder based solely around behavior, Tourette syndrome, has increasingly unsurprising findings. Polymorphisms of interleukin 1 gene IL1RN are associated with Tourette syndrome reports “The odds ratio for developing Tourette syndrome in individuals with the IL1RN( *)1 allele, compared with IL1RN( *)2, was 7.65.” (!!!) , and Elevated expression of MCP-1, IL-2 and PTPR-N in basal ganglia of Tourette syndrome cases is yet another example of observations of CNS based immune participation in a disorder that is diagnosed by behavior.
There are also some reviews that perform a cross talk of sorts between disorders; i.e., The mononuclear phagocyte system and its cytokine inflammatory networks in schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, or Immune system to brain signaling: Neuropsychopharmacological implications, published in May 2011, which has this abstract:
There has been an explosion in our knowledge of the pathways and mechanisms by which the immune system can influence the brain and behavior. In the context of inflammation, pro-inflammatory cytokines can access the central nervous system and interact with a cytokine network in the brain to influence virtually every aspect of brain function relevant to behavior including neurotransmitter metabolism, neuroendocrine function, synaptic plasticity, and neurocircuits that regulate mood, motor activity, motivation, anxiety and alarm. Behavioral consequences of these effects of the immune system on the brain include depression, anxiety, fatigue, psychomotor slowing, anorexia, cognitive dysfunction and sleep impairment; symptoms that overlap with those which characterize neuropsychiatric disorders, especially depression. Pathways that appear to be especially important in immune system effects on the brain include the cytokine signaling molecules, p38 mitogen-activated protein kinase and nuclear factor kappa B; indoleamine 2,3 dioxygenase and its downstream metabolites, kynurenine, quinolinic acid and kynurenic acid; the neurotransmitters, serotonin, dopamine and glutamate; and neurocircuits involving the basal ganglia and anterior cingulate cortex. A series of vulnerability factors including aging and obesity as well as chronic stress also appears to interact with immune to brain signaling to exacerbate immunologic contributions to neuropsychiatric disease. The elucidation of the mechanisms by which the immune system influences behavior yields a host of targets for potential therapeutic development as well as informing strategies for the prevention of neuropsychiatric disease in at risk populations.
All of the conditions above, depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar, and tourettes are diagnosed behaviorally; it is only in the last few years that the medical dimension of these disorders were even understood to exist. None of the studies that I referenced above are more than five years old; the idea that behavioral disorders were so closely entangled with the immune system is very, very new. It should be noted that I intentionally left out disorders that also have reams of evidence of immune participation, but which are more degenerative in nature; i.e., Alzheimer’s, ALS, Parkinson’s. When discussing autism, I also left out studies involving aberrant presence of auto-antibodies, of which there are many.
One of the things that I have learned in trying to refine my thought processes during my time on the Internet is that rarely does a single study tell us much about a condition; but the converse also holds true, if we have many studies with different methodologies or measurement end points, but they all reach similar conclusions, then the likely-hood that the findings are accurate is much, much greater. All of the studies I have listed above tell us something similar; that the immune system is clearly, unmistakably playing a part in a lot of conditions classically considered neurological and diagnosed behaviorally. It isn’t enough to nitpick flaws in a single one of the studies in order for ‘correlation does not equal causation’ to make meaningful headway into the implications of these studies; instead, all of the studies above, and lots more, have to be wrong in the same way if we would like to return to a place where we can keep our heads in the sand, hoping for coincidences and bleating out catchphrases in the face of clinical findings. That isn’t going to happen. Given this reality, we should not and cannot ignore the growing evidence of immune abnormalities in the autism population, no matter how inconvenient following that trail of evidence might become.
-pD
81 Responses to "The Interconnectedness of the Brain, Behavior, and Immunology and the Difficult to Overstate Flaccidity of The Correlation Is Not Causation Argument"

Wow. Just wow. I absolutely love this post. I got the link from the Mothering.com forums. It is getting bookmarked.
I think arguing over the internet, or even in “real” life about this stuff is pretty pointless. I’ve done my fair share of it, but no matter how eloquently you poke holes in a detractor’s argument about this stuff, they won’t get it.
I’m just going to continue making choices for my family based on my own research. You are very right when you make the point that our understanding of the immune system is limited. I always tell people we are basically in the dark ages about how it works and someday people are going to look back on these times the way we look back on physicians bleeding everyone with leeches.


Oh, and also, your post brought up some ideas for me. How does food impact inflammation? A lot of people interested in alternative medicine claim some foods cause inflammation which is the root of disease. I know that if you have something like undiagnosed Celiac disease, you have chronic inflammation in the gut which can cause all kinds of problems. I’ve got autoimmune hypothyroidism and I had Hodgkin’s disease, so I am really interested in this.
I’ll have to go do some research and see what I can find about antioxidants like Vitamin C and anti-inflammatory cytokines. Any thoughts?


Vitamin C is something you need to seriously research. It’s not just an anti-oxidant. Nor is vitamin C “just” a vitamin. It’s the core of life, and without it the body’s pathways all become a crock, including the glutathione pathway. So many biochemical functions are dependant on appropriate levels, not just an RDA which might be enough to prevent the end-point of the morbid condition “scurvy” but which has little relevance to the actual ability to live a healthy, meaningful life.
Professor Clemetson’s 3 volume 1998 text is no longer published or available, but he gave me them on a disc before he died, so if you want a copy, email me. Other than that, Professor Harri Hemila’s website is the place to start, then branch out via Pubmed.
In terms of neonatal immunity, and the potential impact of vaccines, this three part series may have embedded information of use:


PD, first, (thinking about the starting sentences of your blog )you are thinking, which is more than your naysayers are, and you are closer to the “truth” than you know, or your naysayers have the foggiest about.
Re Harri – understand his position. He’s a professor at a med school. He will only write “proven” fact, which he will be the first to admit is hidebound by mindsets, and what has been ‘done’. He would be the first to admit (privately), that there is far more to that story than he can talk about. Being part of a system, automatically puts constraints on what you can say, and how.
Which is why Clemetson’s texts are so important, and why knowing your way around all the alleys of pubmed are crucial. Everything is actually there, if you know how to find it.
Secondly, like everything there is a genetic element to “requirements” for vitamin C. When we started using it, we used C-stix which measured urinary overspill. My husband at the time weight 72 kgs, and he “required” 3 grams over 24 hours. More than that and he’d “spill”. Me? Well, I have a primary immunodeficiency (though no-one else in the family does have…) , and the amount of vitamin C I require on a good day is 4 times that needed by my husband. On a bad day, that goes up to 20 times.
Now that C-stix are no longer manufactured, I have to go by diarrhoea, which is accurate, but a lot more hit and miss.
What we need depends on the way our biochemical “utility pathways” are working, or not working.
If VACCINES caused autism across the board, everyone would have autism. Every baby whose mother took thalidomide would have defects. But no drug reaction works that way. It’s always a select group – about whom the medical profession know little, who will come up with the reaction.
The term “Individual Biochemical Susceptibility” the title of a book by Dr Roger Williams, applies.
This also applies to your point about vitamin C and the common cold. Large scale number crunching trials actually bear little relevance to the individual unique biochemical system, which might work radically differently from that of the next door neighbour.
(I’m allergic to all antibiotics. Are you? rhetorical question)
Bethany,
Over and above the sort of diet recommended by Dr Terry Wahls in her book “Minding my mitochondria” the two key arms of the innate immune system are, vitamin C, (as you rightly say) and vitamin D.
The consequences to a developing baby being inside a mother for nine months, who is chronically deficient in those two things, who is also primarily eats a balanced meal on the knees of takeaways, Kentucky fry, McDonalds, donuts, coca-cola and barely knows fruits or vegetables are huge.
That sort of diet, so common in pregnant women I see in this country today, causes permanent epigenetic changes – including in the immune system. The proof is in their medical literature, but they keep their mouths shut.
And it’s my pick that the nutritional deficiencies my mother had laid the foundation for my immunodeficiency (since no-one else in the family has one) and resulted in her losing all her teeth at the age of 40.
Sorry about the ramble…


Hi pD
Wonderful! Thank you for your post.
I do think that the problem of autoimmunity, the breakdown of tolerance , is one of the cornerstones of the situation. There are two main aspects that , if you allow me, I would add
1- the topic of molecular mimicry, bystander activation and viral persistence
http://cmr.asm.org/cgi/content/short/19/1/80
2- the idea of the fertile field in autoimmunity. Even when the framework has been diabetes, I do think that the approach would be very valuable- and fruitful in ASD. Unfortunately, nobody is trying….
Nat Rev Microbiol. 2003 Nov;1(2):151-7.
Microorganisms and autoimmunity: making the barren field fertile?
von Herrath MG, Fujinami RS, Whitton JL.
Microorganisms induce strong immune responses, most of which are specific for their encoded antigens. However, microbial infections can also trigger responses against self antigens (autoimmunity), and it has been proposed that this phenomenon could underlie several chronic human diseases, such as type 1 diabetes and multiple sclerosis. Nevertheless, despite intensive efforts, it has proven difficult to identify any single microorganism as the cause of a human autoimmune disease, indicating that the ‘one organism-one disease’ paradigm that is central to Koch’s postulates might not invariably apply to microbially induced autoimmune disease. Here, we review the mechanisms by which microorganisms might induce autoimmunity, and we outline a hypothesis that we call the fertile-field hypothesis to explain how a single autoimmune disease could be induced and exacerbated by many different microbial infections.
3- how conditions as post strep autoimmunity are being studied of strong behavioral components and symptoms. There is no attempt to study post strep conditions in autism as a whole (including severe manifestations such as RF but also others more difficult and controversial to diagnose)
4- how far, even with all the knowledge that remains unsystematized, unanalized, and in the case of the Anecdotal evidence dismissed, we are from the discussion of a protocol of immune conditions in autism and this is also very sad.
Thank you for your post. What do you think?


Single vaccines can lead to a rise in autoantibodies in adults, http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/The_ignorance_of_vaccinologists/ and they’ve not yet done studies to find out what happens after repeat vaccines. What might be the result in a neonate, which is programmed NOT to create inflammation of any sort, during the period when the body is programmed to learn “tolerance” to define self and non-self, and what is “safe”?
In this post http://www.beyondconformity.org.nz/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=49837&A=SearchResult&SearchID=2203544&ObjectID=49837&ObjectType=55 look for Tsumiyama and Toplak if you’ve not seen them before… otherwise ignore…
There are heaps of medical articles which show that hepatitis B vaccine causes autoimmunity in recipients, as does the influenza vaccines. Yet how many doctors even know of the existence of these articles?
and who is asking the question – WHAT – in the vaccine, is triggering the autoimmunity, because like you, I don’t think that it’s just molecular mimicry.
These were what could be termed the “non-specific” effects of vaccines in the western world. Different from the ones that Aaby talks about in Africa.
Africa has Aaby; the western world has no-one.


P.S. I’ve not found any studies looking at any of the other vaccines re autoimmunity, but that might just mean I’ve not looked far enough.


Everybody knows autism is caused by refrigerator mothers. (Sorry–I suffer from Snarkolepsy). There are studies to prove it.
Oh, my…biological basis makes sense to me. Good luck, hope you are riding on the crest of new thought towards autism.
I, too, had no answer to correlation/causation rule, but couldn’t face it logically…if science isn’t observation, what is it?
Madam Curie said There are sadistic scientists who hurry to hunt down errors instead of establishing the truth., and it seems that was done with autism.
Thank you for taking the time.


Had you ever heard of this study? I don’t know if it was ever completed. It was very interesting to me at the time. I don’t know that it is related to what you are talking about.
http://www.autismspeaks.org/science/research/initiatives/environmental_factors_keil.php
There used to be a lot more talk of NK cells and autism. Then it seems like we got distracted by mercury.


Like Bethany said, Wow!! So very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to read through so many studies and summarize some key points for us. Clearly there is so much more to be learned in this area, and so much that has been learned but not publicized much.
Having spent the day watching movies on TV — very unusual for me — due to feeling totally bowled over by a cough/throat/cold virus — also very unusual for me — it was especially relevant to read about how cytokines tell our brains to slow us down. I always thought it was the effect of the germs that made us feel weak when sick, but that makes sense that our body has ways of telling us to rest so that the body’s resources can focus on fighting the illness.
I was aware of studies saying that inflammation in the brain and autoantibodies to the myelin basic protein coating nerve cells are more common among people with autism, and I had thought about how those might cause or exacerbate autism. It was interesting to read today that certain proinflammatory cytokines “induce sickness behavior in the form of reduced food intake and decreased social activities”. Perhaps this ability to induce decreased social activities evolved for two reasons: so that we would rest more when sick, and so that we would interact less with others and thereby not spread the germs as much? I wonder, what if this “sickness behavior” consisting of decreased social activities is exagerated by multiple vaccines with adjuvants, thus contributing to autism? Wouldn’t it be something if it is found that autism is not just brain damage due to the effects of inflammation, auto-immunity, and toxins on brain and nerve cells, but also sometimes due to a natural mechanism designed to reduce sociability, which can become exagerated and go awry? An interesting thought. Reduced food intake is also an issue for many people with autism.
This article was also interesting in relation to dietary intervention. I have often wondered (and heard various theories about) how simply removing certain foods from the diet has such a huge impact for some people. It makes sense that if certain foods are eliciting an exagerated response from the immune system (for whatever reasons, including due to vaccines) and if removing those foods calms down whatever parts of the immune system were over-responding, this could impact the brain and behavior in the ways you have touched on in this article.


@PD your reply to my post No 7 – can’t reply under yours, because there is no reply button.
Warning. Rant ahead. No offence meant, just blood pressure rattling in the upper reaches!
Yes, I’ve seen both those studies, and the pediatrics one rightly notes that there are too many confounders – in particular, because they can’t know that all those breastfed babies were ACTUALLY breastfed, just as I said in my post above yours.
They know that breastmilk orchestrates obesity (lack of)… and there isn’t enough space here to discuss why. If you research formulas, it’s enormous trying to sift out the garbage from what’s useful, but the more you look at formula, the more you wonder just what persuaded paediatricians to support it, and…
Here’s one reason why so much of what is in both those studies is spurious:
ONE of the reasons paediatricians argue for supplementational formula is that breastfed babies get “anaemic”. Breastfed babies do NOT get anaemic The whole concept of anaemia equating to iron deficiency is bad science. It’s another ludicrous concept that the medical profession has got wrong.
The whole method of measuring iron is spurious as well.
We are NOT designed to load up with iron, and the RDAs are far too high. Iron and glucose have an inter-relationship and it’s interesting to me that so many “diseases” are really iron overload. If you chelate out iron from diabetics, their diabetes improves.
Breastfed babies are “protected” from diabetes, from obesity. Why might that be? Might it be that breastfed babies have the “right” breastmilk sugar – iron balance for optimum growth?
Babies on formula, will suffer from subclinical iron overload, and that is ONE of the problems associated with both diabetes and obesity.
Have a look at PMID: 20876715 and PMID: 21620786, then work backwards, and you will see what I mean. Yet what mother hasn’t been told their haemoglobin is low, and they should go on iron. Where does the iron overload in babies come from? The mother, because the default position of the placenta is to divert iron to the baby, which is just fine under “normal” circumstances when the mothers intake is 1.5 mgs. What happens when 27 mgs per day, is tossed into the mix? How many overload grams of iron will a mother get over that pregancy? What is the effect of the baby to be?
Using PMID: 21620786 if you click on related articles you will see that they are blaming genes – rather than understanding that anaemia isn’t iron deficiency. They have the cart before the horse… I dont’ think we have an “expanding clinical spectrum of mitochondrial disorders”. I agree with Dr Terry Wahls, that we have an expanding clinical spectrum of nutritional disorders, which – like Pottenger’s cats – impact genes epigenetically, through the generations, incrementally compounding problem on problem, because we are interfered with by people who don’t understand the ramifications of their assumptions..
Since when does low haemoglobin levels PHYSICALLY equate to iron deficiency? Only when a doctor says it does, but it’s a load of rot. Anaemia could be called “iron loading anaemia” because when you load iron, you completely mess with other minerals and other b-vitamins, which affects other pathways, and results in “anaemia”. They have known that for decades, and had all sorts of explanations as to why Iron could also be bad,… like “Oh, you are minus the ‘intrinsic factor’.” “What’s ‘intrinsic factor,” doc?”. Reply: “Well, we have no idea, but it’s something intrinsic, which we can’t see, but think must be there, because what other explanation is there?” Iron supplements in pregnant women cause so many problems, iron overloads the baby – so how will they confound for that in the formula feeding studies?
And it’s never a surprise to me, when a pregnant woman obeys and takes iron, she starts having bacterial infection after bacterial infection! The doctor simply tells her to stay away from people with ‘BUGS’ !! Ever heard a doc say to pregnant mother, “GO OFF your prenatals, because bacteria feed on iron”. How do they know this? Because they know that the immune system kicks in and tries to remove iron during a bacterial infection.
People with diabetes have<b? too much iron…. Autistic kids have high levels of iron.
Hello? Does it ring a bell? What does iron overload DO, particularly to mitochondria?
Where did the iron come from? Thin air, or prenatal vitamins prescribed by the medical profession because they don’t know the difference between “low haemoglobin” – and pregnant blood which has extra fluid as part of the “built in ” design which results in “low haemoglobin” because the blood sample is “diluted”?
What’s the FDA recommendation of iron for pregnant women? 27 mgs a day… A ludicrously high amount..!!! These doctors fail to realise that excess iron intake is ONLY removed from the body at 1 mg a day in hair, skin turnover, and toe and fingernail growth… …and the rest is stored.
They “think” that the only excess condition is haemachromatosis. yet they talk about iron overload in babies. Come on. They are oblivious to the fact that iron is actually BAD for the human body, and that what they call iron deficiency, is actually a b-vitamin deficiency, and altered pathways unable to use what iron the body already has in abundance…
These two things must be factored into any study on both formula feeding and breastfeeding, because iron alters lots of biochemical pathways…. but they can’t confound for them, because they don’t accept, or know there is an issue with iron. They think it’s “good for you”.
Fortunately the breast regulates iron output at about 1 mg a day, a bit more than a baby’s body excretes – yet the medical profession considers that a deficiency…
On the other hand, someone with Gilbert’s syndrome, with a bone ferritin reading of 400 will be given the cure for this. Guess what it is. Elemental iron. It’s the only way to reduce the ferritin reading. Iron – ic isn’t it.
How can we possibly trust these people to work out what’s wrong with our kids, when their basics are so lacking that everything else becomes a wild goose chase…. The medical profession should be certified as a walking menace to pregnant mothers, babies and children, when it comes to defining how to keep them healthy
Rant off. Sorry about that, but just had to say it….

Well, what if you are chronically anemic (ferritin levels) even when trying to take iron pills? I have that problem and I worry about it. Do I have b-vitamin deficiency then? Do you have any studies to back up all the stuff you wrote? I am interested.



Hi Bethany, if you go to Google School and put in the words anaemia folic acid and B deficiency, download the pdfs there, and you will start to see that iron isn’t the answer. And sometimes, it’s the type of iron and dosage which is the answer.
In the few people who are TRULY iron deficient, low doses of ferrous bis glycinate rather than ferrous sulfate, is far better tolerated, and gives good results.
But the very fact that you are taking iron pills and they have done nothing, is enough to tell you that the problem isn’t iron.


Like neural tube defects and folic acid, (it’s the genes you know….) how many decades will it take for them to connect those dots and say, “Oh, it’s the folic acid!, not the gene….”
That should have read… “How many decades did it take for then to connect those dots….”


[…] causing these profiles, or how, precisely, they might give rise to an increased risk of autism. The interconnectedness of the brain and the immune systemwould be a good place to start looking for an answer to the last question […]


Hi pD
Any thoughts on these two 2011 studies …
Aberrant NF-KappaB Expression in Autism Spectrum Condition: A Mechanism for Neuroinflammation 2011
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3098713/
Expression Profiling of Autism Candidate Genes during Human Brain Development Implicates Central Immune Signaling Pathways
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0024691
(Might have to google that one to get full paper which has been published on plosone.
Cheers


Hi
Got in contact with Paul Patterson
http://infectiousbehavior.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/empathy-and-evil/#comment-57
phpatterson says:
November 26, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Thx for those refs Blackheart. Those are indeed right up my alley. The NFKb connection with autism is potentially important because this protein is at the hub of the network that receives, computes, and outputs responses to inflammatory signals impinging on cells. Thus, changes in NFkB levels or activity can profoundly influence how a cell responds to cytokines, for instance. The second paper, on profiling autism candidate genes is somewhat speculative, but places many immune/inflammation genes at the heart of the autism gene network. This is consistent with the paper by Dan Geschwind and colleagues at UCLA that I consider to be the gold standard of gene network analysis in autism brains (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21614001). In that paper, Dan found that the specially expressed genes in autism fell into two groups, one having to do with synapses and neuronal function, and the second having to do with glia and immune function. This place immune function once more at the heart of autism gene network activity.
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Thanks for the reply ..
I’ve had an amateur look at some aspects of NFkB in autism and some of the other aspects that seem to correspond to the some ‘types’ of ASD. Allergies , Eczema , asthma , sleep disturbances , anxiety, and inflammatory bowel disease. (I can send you some of the paper links if you like)
Am I correct (and I don’t mind being wrong) that this is supplementing evidence of two phenotypes of autism (that has been yet to be published I believe but) presented at a South Pacific Autism conference by David Amaral at University of California Davis MIND Institute.
“One group of children – all boys – had enlarged brains and most had regressed into autism after 18 months of age; another group appeared to have immune systems that were not functioning properly.”
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I’m not clear I have read this part properly
“Moreover, using a published autism genome-wide association study (GWAS) data set, we show that the neuronal module is enriched for genetically associated variants, providing independent support for the causal involvement of these genes in autism.
In contrast, the immune-glial module showed no enrichment for autism GWAS signals, indicating a non-genetic aetiology for this process.”
Is this suggesting two distinct pathways (aetiology) – one being genetically based and the other due environment ?


@ Blackheart. Part of the problem is that geneticists haven’t yet got a full handle on epigenetics. They still want to “blame” genes, rather than look at “what” methylates genes. Often when they talk about certain cancers being “genetically” related and “running in families”, they can sometimes be putting the cart before the horse. Genes are often switched on, and off, by what we eat. So if a whole family has the same lousy lifestyle, the same genes will be triggered, because the same environmental factors will apply. Just like some families across generations eat good food, and some all live on takeaways.
So, take this article:
If everything we eat orchestrates and modulates our genes in some way, then the “switching on” or “switching off” of genes, is usally “environmentally” induced, in one way or another. Food, toxins, viruses whatever is capable of switching on genes.
Which came first? The chicken of the egg? Do you need the “gene” first, or might that gene have lain dormant if X had never been done or eaten?
I believe the same applies with autism and babies…a mother’s nutrition – alcohol, recreational drugs…, mercury filings put into teeth; drugs during pregnancy – and yes, antiobiotics – to hormonal or drug interference in labour; immediately cord clamping which has huge epigenetic effects…. whether or not a family CHOSES to formula feed, rather than breastfeed. Breastmilk orchestrates the neonatal immune system, so right there, formula feeding is going to epigenetically change the immune system default setting. And then, of course, there is what I call “cranial cluster bombs” – vaccines.
Why is it that these epigeneticists who agree that food alters how our genes work, are prepared to toss a whole bunch of monkey wrenches into a developing neonatal brain, (which goes “against” the default plan, as to how that brain develops)( – like – vaccine after vaccine after vaccine? If they accept that genes will be switched on with food, why then do they not accept that a vaccine, which will always trigger something in a baby’s brain, will “result” in immune system derangement, inflammation AND resultant autism?
The other problem which annoys me, is that the medical profession prefers to blame any genes that were switched on as if it’s some “act of god” which can’t be prevented…. and then they say, maybe we can “do something” to turn it back off.
Vaccines must never be fingered, because vaccines are “coincidental” to everything else in like, just like this parenting magazine lulls parents into complacency by saying http://www.parents.com/baby/care/pediatricians-medicine/well-baby-visits-for-your-baby/?page=1
QUOTE: “Why so many visits? Your baby’s body and mind are changing at a phenomenal rate, and frequent checkups can reveal deviations from what’s normal. Your doctor is on the lookout for any medical issues that may affect your baby, because detecting problems early makes them easier to correct. In addition, these visits coincide with the schedule of immunization shots your child will receive.”
…….and all these vaccines which just happen to “coincide” with the raft of “well baby” visits, are also just “coincidental” when something nasty happens after they are injected into your child!
So what we have is a medical people (in general) who happily talk about how “food” switches on genes etc, but then say that vaccines toxins etc… will NOT switch on specific inflammatory genes to create havoc in the brain. That the baby had the problem before X Y and Z happened.


Food for thought (pun intended) a recent visit to our paediatrician concerning my son’s immune system (not his ASD) suggested the “food industry” was implicated in many of the childhood diseases he was attempting to ameliorate. (Without success unless food intake was taken into consideration)
My own personal observations that our son has a “immune based” ASD comes with the fact he has the triad of immune system function. Asthma , Eczema , Food allergies (some severe). It was also feeding that at times caused us the greatest concern when he was an infant.
The ‘ecological’ framework you describe makes perfect sense to me I’m just wondering whether science and medicine can’t make the connection because of a decidedly left leaning brain.
Is it the immunostimulatory effect of various vaccines that complicates or is problematic ?
I have seen some interesting research on maternal infections as well … thanks to Paul for that – anyway lots of differing hypotheses could be generated and certainly vaccines are still well in the mix.


Blackheart, your paediatrician has a point. The more refined the foods are, the less “complete” it is, and the more likely any food is to trip certain genes. Of that I’m sure. Here are just two examples. The first is a three step argument. I know people who are only “allergic” to grain, when they eat commercial grains. Why is that? becuase grain, in storehouses is sprayed with anti-fungals, and when growing is sprayed with a whole raft of sprays against, this, that and the other. These people however, can eat biodynamically grown grains quite happily. So long as those grains are whole. Refined grains bother them.
For me, I’m much better staying away from grains altogether, and at the age of 64 my father was “cured” or arthritis and an autoimmune condition, by removing all grains and nuts. he lived to 95, and his health at 70 was better than it had been at aged 3o. So absolutely the food industry has a lot to answer for, not that they care.
You ask, “Is it the immunostimulatory effect of various vaccines that complicates or is problematic ?”
They are highly problematic – and in some children, can be the “Sole” cause IMO, but in other children where there are already problems like serial acetaminophen, antibiotics and other drugs in pregnancy, caesarian (which of itself derails the development of the immune system) your classic thoughtless “normal delivery” with immediate clamped cord – vitamin K injection and onto formula as soon as possible… that babies already trying to fend of serial dominoes which have been tripped, so vaccines for them, can be even worse than in a healthy child which weren’t behind the eight ball to begin with….
I love pd’s blog because he’s one of the few people out there really thinking these through. And it seems churlish on his blog to do this – though I think I’ve put these URLS up here before anyway.
This is a blog which I put up after a radio interview with a doctor who willfully said that she agreed with me that “vaccines don’t cause autism”. I said, “That’s noy what I said at all, you are not listening.” So I put up this blog: http://www.beyondconformity.co.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Yes,_vaccines_can_CAUSE_autism!/
Read the first three blogs embedded into that blog which have full texts embedded into them. It will take a while to get through and if your have specific questions, email me.
((I don’t allow comment on my blog because the reason that septics (skeptics, but that’s how I spell it) dogpile on sites which question vaccines is more because they want to hear their mates bark along with them, than actually get educated. So I say what I think and to heck with them. The fact that in four years, I’ve have two emails from skeptics, tells me that they are only interested in defending the status quo at all costs….))
Also do a lot of research on Aluminium in vaccines. Aluminium is a tricky metal, used as an adjuvant. aluminium is “adjuvanted” with the antigen (aluminium and the antigen are opposite “charges” so they “stick” together like the north and south sides of a magnet ). When injected into babies it does several things. Becuase aluminium is toxic, the inate immune system flicks a red switch and calls in the cavalry – in the process of disentangling the aluminium and antigen, the immune system is forced to deal with an antigen which it otherwise would have sulkily ignored. Some aluminium will form a “depot” with the antigen in muscular tissue, which can lead to macrophagic fasciitis (which can ultimately lead to MS). But some aluminium floats free, and if you’re lucky, it is got rid of in the body, BUT if you’re not lucky, it can be taken into various body tissues and stay there. Some will land up in your blood, but will eventually be filtered out. But a recent paper (Marichall 11) shows that aluminium also forces a whole lot of host DNA to be released into the child’s system as well.
Maybe too, before receiving a vaccine, a child might have eaten a peanut butter sandwich as well – or be processing abnormal “food” aka… formula… … and as part of the digestive process, the peanuts or formula… were “dissembled” and various molecular structures from them land up floating around in your child’s body.
So what happens if aluminium, which has an OPPOSITE charge to various protein particles, docks (opposites attract – the principle of adjuvanting…) up against fragments from food, or host DNA? It “adjuvants” with it, just as it “adjuvanted” with the antigen in the vaccine. Whereas the body might normally sulkily ignore that, suddenly, the cavalry is called up again to deal with it…. If aluminium docks up with host DNA, in the process, the cavalry might set in motion….autoimmunity, becuase that normal DNA, just became a “threat”. If Aluminium docks up with a peanut particle, or that grass pollen that your child rolled in.. or anything else coursing through your child’s body, there is the possibility of that child being sensitized the first time, and if that happens again, throwing an allergic reaction the second time.
This isn’t rocket science, and on numerous occasions, I’ve brought this up with immunologists, who have no counter arguments to this, because they know it’s true. They just hope that so long as parents don’t “think” and apply “logic” then problem people like me, (or pd) will go away.
What they fail to realise is that people like myself, get incensed by the injustice of it all, when the answers are in their own medical literature, in front of their eyes, and in their own textbooks, and yet they continually deny it.
We aren’t going to get the answers from lamestream medicine, because they can only afford to tell the parents a truth, if it places the responsibility in the lap of the parents, not at the hand that injected something into the child.
That’s why your paediatrician will happily blame the food industry for your child’s problems, – and ignore the aluminium in the vaccines he’s lining up for your child’s next “well-child” visit.
And if you suggested to him that aluminium in his vaccines, might have docked up to “food” and created a problem….he’d be as aggrieved as the food industry would be, at him blaming them.
You, the parent, will be branded as paranoid or neurotic.
It’s all a big game called pass the buck-parcel.


Thanks Hilary I have passed by your blog before … and will revisit.
I suppose I’m ” reverse engineering” some of this … I can almost make out the pathway … I’ve got Paul’s book ordered. (I’m thinking right brain).
I’m interested in Paul’s work because it seems to associative with the work by Peter Aaby and Bandim Health Project. DTaP and HTMV.
It’s that work that to me stands out so starkly …


@ Blackheart, Yes Peter Aaby’s very stark work, actually raises horizontal question about unintended consequences in developed nations. Perhaps that’s why his peers greet his findings with mainly silence, if forced, caution, but really just hope he would vanish into the ether.
He’d be on my invite list for “who would you most want to spend an evening with, off the record, who would tell you honestly, everything you wanted to know”.
Huge implications – which most in the system, don’t want to look at….



Autism and SSRI (antidpressants)
Antidepressant Use During Pregnancy and Childhood Autism Spectrum Disorders
Lisa A. Croen, PhD ; Judith K. Grether, PhD ; Cathleen K. Yoshida, MS ; Roxana Odouli, MSPH ; Victoria Hendrick, MD
Arch Gen Psychiatry. Published online July 4, 2011. doi:10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2011.73
Context The prevalence of autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) has increased over recent years. Use of antidepressant medications during pregnancy also shows a secular increase in recent decades, prompting concerns that prenatal exposure may contribute to increased risk of ASD.
Results Prenatal exposure to antidepressant medications was reported for 20 case children (6.7%) and 50 control children (3.3%). In adjusted logistic regression models, we found a 2-fold increased risk of ASD associated with treatment with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors by the mother during the year before delivery (adjusted odds ratio, 2.2 [95% confidence interval, 1.2-4.3]), with the strongest effect associated with treatment during the first trimester (adjusted odds ratio, 3.8 [95% confidence interval, 1.8-7.8]). No increase in risk was found for mothers with a history of mental health treatment in the absence of prenatal exposure to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
Conclusion Although the number of children exposed prenatally to selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors in this population was low, results suggest that exposure, especially during the first trimester, may modestly increase the risk of ASD. The potential risk associated with exposure must be balanced with the risk to the mother or fetus of untreated mental health disorders. Further studies are needed to replicate and extend these findings.
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Differential induction of NF-κB activity and neural cell death by antidepressants in vitro
1. Anke Post,
2. Christophe Crochemore,
3. Manfred Uhr,
4. Florian Holsboer,
5. Christian Behl
Article first published online: 18 JUL 2008
DOI: 10.1046/j.0953-816X.2000.01352.x
European Journal of Neuroscience
Volume 12, Issue 12, pages 4331–4337, December 2000
Abstract
Tricyclic antidepressants and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are here shown to induce cell death in a neural cell line. The exposure to these drugs led to increased generation of reactive oxygen species and a concomitant reduction of intracellular glutathione levels. Furthermore, these antidepressants induced DNA fragmentation and increased the transcriptional and DNA-binding activity of NF-κB. In contrast, treatment with type A and B monoamine oxidase inhibitors did not induce changes in NF-κB activity and did not exert a detrimental influence on cell viability. These results indicate that some antidepressant drugs may cause both oxidative stress and changes in cellular antioxidative capacity, resulting in altered NF-κB activity and, ultimately, cell death.
Genetic Heritability and Shared Environmental Factors Among Twin Pairs With Autism
Hallmayer et al.
Arch Gen Psychiatry.2011; 0: 2011761-7.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21727249
Hallmayer J, Cleveland S, Torres A, Phillips J, Cohen B, Torigoe T, Miller J, Fedele A, Collins J, Smith K, Lotspeich L, Croen LA, Ozonoff S, Lajonchere C, Grether JK, Risch N.
Source
Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford (Drs Hallmayer, Lotspeich, and Phillips and Mss Cleveland and Torres), Autism Genetic Resource Exchange, Autism Speaks, Los Angeles (Mss Cohen, Torigoe, and Fedele and Drs Miller and Lajonchere), Environmental Health Investigations Branch, California Department of Public Health, Richmond (Mr Collins, Ms Smith, and Dr Grether), Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Northern California, Oakland (Drs Croen and Risch), University of California, Davis, MIND Institute, Sacramento (Dr Ozonoff), and Institute for Human Genetics and Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, University of California, San Francisco (Dr Risch).
Arch Gen Psychiatry.2011; 0: 2011761-7.
Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2011 Jul 4. [Epub ahead of print]
CONTEXT:
Autism is considered the most heritable of neurodevelopmental disorders, mainly because of the large difference in concordance rates between monozygotic and dizygotic twins.
OBJECTIVE:
To provide rigorous quantitative estimates of genetic heritability of autism and the effects of shared environment.
RESULTS:
For strict autism, probandwise concordance for male twins was 0.58 for 40 monozygotic pairs (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.42-0.74) and 0.21 for 31 dizygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.09-0.43); for female twins, the concordance was 0.60 for 7 monozygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.28-0.90) and 0.27 for 10 dizygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.09-0.69). For ASD, the probandwise concordance for male twins was 0.77 for 45 monozygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.65-0.86) and 0.31 for 45 dizygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.16-0.46); for female twins, the concordance was 0.50 for 9 monozygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.16-0.84) and 0.36 for 13 dizygotic pairs (95% CI, 0.11-0.60). A large proportion of the variance in liability can be explained by shared environmental factors (55%; 95% CI, 9%-81% for autism and 58%; 95% CI, 30%-80% for ASD) in addition to moderate genetic heritability (37%; 95% CI, 8%-84% for autism and 38%; 95% CI, 14%-67% for ASD
.CONCLUSION:
Susceptibility to ASD has moderate genetic heritability and a substantial shared twin environmental component.
Nature. 1999 Sep 2;401(6748):82-5.
NF-kappaB activation by tumour necrosis factor requiresAkt serine-threonine kinase.
Ozes ON, Mayo LD, Gustin JA, Pfeffer SR, Pfeffer LM, Donner DB.
Source
Department of Microbiology and Immunology, Indiana University School of Medicine, the Walther Oncology Center, Indianapolis 46202, USA.
Abstract
Activation of the nuclear transcription factor NF-kappaB by inflammatory cytokines requires the successive action of NF-kappaB-inducing kinase (NIK) and an IKB-kinase (IKK) complex composed of IKKalpha and IKKbeta. Here we show that the Akt serine-threonine kinase is involved in the activation of NF-kappaB by tumour necrosis factor (TNF). TNF activates phosphatidylinositol-3-OH kinase (PI(3)K) and its downstream target Akt (protein kinase B). Wortmannin (a PI(3)K inhibitor), dominant-negative PI(3)K or kinase-dead Akt inhibits TNF-mediated NF-kappaB activation. Constitutively active Akt induces NF-kappaB activity and this effect is blocked by dominant-negative NIK. Conversely, NIK activates NF-kappaB and this is blocked by kinase-dead Akt. Thus, both Akt and NIK are necessary for TNF activation of NF-kappaB. Akt mediates IKKalpha phosphorylation at threonine 23. Mutation of this amino acid blocks phosphorylation by Akt or TNF and activation of NF-kappaB. These findings indicate that Akt is part of a signalling pathway that is necessary for inducing key immune and inflammatory responses.
Elevation of tumor necrosis factor-alpha in cerebrospinal fluid of autistic children.
Chez MG, Dowling T, Patel PB, Khanna P, Kominsky M.
Source
Department of Neurology, Rosalind Franklin University, and the Chicago Medical School, North Chicago, IL, USA. chezm2@sutterhealth.org
Abstract
Recent reports implicating elevated cytokines in the central nervous system in a small number of patients studied with autismautism had clinical evaluation of their serum and spinal fluid for inflammatory changes and possible metabolic disease as part of their neurological evaluation. Elevation of cerebrospinal fluid levels of tumor necrosis factor-alpha was significantly higher (mean = 104.10 pg/mL) than concurrent serum levels (mean = 2.78 pg/mL) in all of the patients studied. The ratio of the cerebrospinal fluid levels to serum levels averaged 53.7:1. This ratio is significantly higher than the elevations reported for other pathological states for which cerebrospinal fluid and serum tumor necrosis factor-alpha levels have been simultaneously measured. This observation may offer a unique insight into central nervous system inflammatory mechanisms that may contribute to the onset of autism and may serve as a potential clinical marker. More controlled study of this potentially important observation may prove valuable. have reported clinical regression. These studies have not focused on tumor necrosis factor-alpha as a possible marker for inflammatory damage. A series of 10 children with
An Open-Label Study of the Human Anti-TNF Monoclonal Antibody Adalimumab in Subjects with Prior Loss of Response or Intolerance to Infliximab for Crohn’s Disease
William J. Sandborn, M.D.; Stephen Hanauer, M.D.; Edward V. Loftus Jr., M.D.; William J. Tremaine, M.D.; Sunanda Kane, M.D.; Russell Cohen; Karen Hanson, R.N., C.N.P.; Therese Johnson, R.N.; Debra Schmitt, R.N.; Resa Jeche, A.S.
Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota; University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois
We assessed the tolerability and clinical benefit of adalimumab, a human antibody to tumor necrosis factor (TNF), in patients with Crohn’s disease who had previously received and responded to the chimeric anti-TNF antibody infliximab, but who no longer had a sustained response and/or tolerance to infliximab.
Conclusions: Adalimumab is well tolerated and appears to be a clinically beneficial option for patients with Crohn’s disease who have previously lost their response to, or cannot tolerate infliximab.
Pediatr Neurol. 2005 Sep;33(3):195-201.
Cerebrospinal fluid and serum markers of inflammation in autism.
Zimmerman AW, Jyonouchi H, Comi AM, Connors SL, Milstien S, Varsou A, Heyes MP.
Department of Neurology and Developmental Medicine, Kennedy Krieger Institute, Baltimore Maryland 21205, USA.
Abstract
Systemic immune abnormalities have no known relevance to brain dysfunction in autism. In order to find evidence for neuroinflammation, we compared levels of sensitive indicators of immune activation: quinolinic acid, neopterin, and biopterin, as well as multiple cytokines and cytokine receptors, in cerebrospinal fluid and serum from children with autism, to control subjects with other neurologic disorders. In cerebrospinal fluid from 12 children with autism, quinolinic acid (P = 0.037) and neopterin (P = 0.003) were decreased, and biopterin (P = 0.040) was elevated, compared with control subjects. In sera from 35 persons with autism, among cytokines, only tumor necrosis factor receptor II was elevated compared with controls (P < 0.02). Decreased quinolinic acid and neopterin in cerebrospinal fluid are paradoxical and suggest dysmaturation of metabolic pathways and absence of concurrent infection, respectively, in autism. Alternatively, they may be produced by microglia but remain localized and not expressed in cerebrospinal fluid.
J Biomed Sci. 2011 Jul 4;18(1):48.
Valproic acid inhibits neural progenitor cell death by activation of NF-κB signaling pathway and up-regulation of Bcl-XL.
Go HS, Seo JE, Kim KC, Han SM, Kim P, Kang YS, Han SH, Shin CY, Ko KH.
Source
Department of Pharmacology, College of Pharmacy, Seoul National University, Seoul, Korea.
Abstract
BACKGROUND:
At the beginning of neurogenesis, massive brain cell death occurs and more than 50% of cells are eliminated by apoptosis along with neuronal differentiation. However, few studies were conducted so far regarding the regulation of neural progenitor cells (NPCs) death during development. Because of the physiological role of cell death during development, aberration of normal apoptotic cell death is detrimental to normal organogenesis.Apoptosis occurs in not only neuron but also in NPCs and neuroblast. When growth and survival signals such as EGF or LIF are removed, apoptosis is activated as well as the induction of differentiation. To investigate the regulation of cell death during developmental stage, it is essential to investigate the regulation of apoptosis of NPCs.
METHODS:
Neural progenitor cells were cultured from E14 embryonic brains of Sprague-Dawley rats. For in vivo VPA animal model, pregnant rats were treated with VPA (400 mg/kg S.C.) diluted with normal saline at E12. To analyze the cell death, we performed PI staining and PARP and caspase-3 cleavage assay. Expression level of proteins was investigated by Western blot and immunocytochemical assays. The level of mRNA expression was investigated by RT-PCR. Interaction of Bcl-XL gene promoter and NF-κB p65 was investigated by ChIP assay.
RESULTS:
In this study, FACS analysis, PI staining and PARP and caspase-3 cleavage assay showed that VPA protects cultured NPCs from cell death after growth factor withdrawal both in basal and staurosporine- or hydrogen peroxide-stimulated conditions. The protective effect of prenatally injected VPA was also observed in E16 embryonic brain. Treatment of VPA decreased the level of IκBα and increased the nuclear translocation of NF-κB, which subsequently enhanced expression of anti-apoptotic protein Bcl-XL.
CONCLUSION:
To the best of our knowledge, this is the first report to indicate the reduced death of NPCs by VPA at developmentally critical periods through the degradation of IκBα and the activation of NF-κB signaling. The reduced NPCs death might underlie the neurodevelopmental defects collectively called fetal valproate syndrome, which shows symptoms such as mental retardation and autism-like behavior.
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NF-κB prevents β cell death and autoimmune diabetes in NOD mice
http://www.pnas.org/content/104/6/1913
These results suggest that under conditions that resemble autoimmune type 1 diabetes, the dominant effect of NF-κB is prevention of TNF-induced apoptosis. This differs from the proapoptotic function of NF-κB in IL-1β-stimulated β cells.



PD you say, “Another thing that has really bothered me for a long time regarding the findings of immune activation in the CNS is autism is the distinct lack of a hallmark feature of what you usually think of when you think, neuroinflammation, namely, a degenerative state”
I don’t know why you say this. There is a ton of evidence from medical literature showing immune activation in the CNS with plenty of hallmark features of neuroinflammation. Not sure what “namely, a degenerative state”, means, either. Neuroinflammation is an on-going state, which can be reversed.
Put “evidence of neuroinflammation in CNS in Autism” into Google Scholar, or Google and you will have more than enough proof.
Try here for starters: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ana.20315/full
Plenty of colour slides in that medical paper for you.
and here: http://www.namialabama.org/clientimages/44494/documents/uabpsyschiatrygrandrounds2010.pdf


@ PH patterson. I never breathed a word about Wakefield, mercury or MMR. I’ve also never written about either except to explain why I’ve never written about them. I started to see autism after vaccines, long before the world knew about Kirby or Wakefield and long before “Jenny” became a household name, or supported a ludicrous concept called “green the vaccines”.
There are vasty more broader reasons , and had those people pushing specific barrows, actually done their homework properly, the debate would look very different today.
People don’t look for something, if they don’t know there is an “issue”, and if they don’t know where to start to research something. A doctor with brains once told me, “Hilary, beware the arrogance of ignorance”. A problem for both sides of the issue, and one which I believe you also suffer from. For some of us, the understanding that we are ignorant, has provided the foundation for finding what we know, knowing that there is always more we don’t know.
It’s hard enough for parents to research – particularly because unlike you, getting full text articles isn’t free, and can be a real mission.
You’ve read these two trials I presume? PMID: 2871241. PMID 2896826.In neither of these studies, is the word “placebo” even legitimate, as one of your colleagues has stated recently PMID: 22041301 albeit restricted to Al whereas both these studies used multiple non-inert substances in their so-called “placebos”.
The day I read these two trials, 20+ years ago, was the day I started to understand that it can be difficult to trust a medical system which indulges in selective deafness, and selective definition, to investigate anything. Of course, those were the days…. when the medical system never dreamed that parents would read what they wrote.
When “experts” start quoting “epidemiology” to squash any suggestion of vaccine culpability issues, their definitions are always something that bothers me. The definition of the word “unvaccinated” is usually as valid as the definition of the world “placebo” in the two studies above.
One study the medical system has never done, and will never do, is to do a trial looking at autistic children, and comparing them with children who NOT ONLY were never ever vaccinated, but were also breastfed, birthed without intervention, and whose mothers ate superbly when pregnant, and compared them with the “average” acceptable child, who has had all vaccines.
You may say, that’s comparing apples and pears.
Parents like myself have long since learned that if we want healthy children, the people to be most circumspect of, are the medical profession. If a pregnany mother takes the advice of the average doctor today the mother is on a downward spiral of anti-acids, antibiotics, constant scans, and needless tests – with minimal useful advice. I know, because I’ve done a huge amount of doula work, and had to sit and listen to “professional” advice consisting of the likes of: (serious morning sickness)… “Just use 5-up, cola and potato crisps,” (ultrasound scans) “we need to do them so that we can intervene if we think it’s necessary” – don’t you love the “we” bit…. (breech baby) “That’s okay, we’ll schedule a caesarian” (cracked nipples) “just supplement with formula until the cracks heal” (baby eczema) “Here use this cream” (steroids) and …. the list is endless.
And that is true about so much that the medical profession gives as an “answer”. Yes, I’ve received your book. And when I’ve finished it, I will decide whether or not I have the time to point out everything you have selectively chosen to ignore. So far, that would fill about two books.
So… you’ve quoted yourself here…, because you consider yourself a worthy “authority”.
I’ve also learned that if parents dig deep enough into the medical literarature and know where to look, they will find the real answers, not “pretend” answers.
That is where I get my answers from
Here is a little bit from the medical literature, back to you, – a skeleton within these three blogs:
http://www.beyondconformity.co.nz/_blog/Hilary's_Desk/post/Vaccines_and_neonatal_immune_development/
To save readers time, many of the full texts publicly available are uploaded into the blogs.
One you’ve read all those articles, and put flesh on the skeletons and breathed life into the core knowledge… (or lack of) , perhaps THEN you can tell us why vaccines are such a good thing to put into a neonatal immune system which …. is set by default on “anti-inflammatory” setting, in order that the baby will be able to cope with the real world properly.
The answers are all there in your own medical literature. Never in my wildest imaginations would I have ever thought that the medical profession could have ignored such basic fundamentals as the how’s and why’s of the neonatal immune system.


Hi Paul, Pd and Hilary
hmmm … I keep going back to the Aaby work on non specific effects of vaccines.
The epidemiology (bad as it is ie a + b = c ) does suggest that there may not be a link specifically between MMR and Autism , but Hornig did find an 88% regression and a clear association with GI symptoms. Thus suggesting MMR was having some sort of effect on the autism developmental continuum.
So one open ended question might be – Do ASD children have a ‘risk’ in receiving vaccines ?
There’s a couple of interesting studies (One possible pathway which might explain some of the findings)
1. Mast cell activation and autism.
Theoharides
Molecular Immunopharmacology and Drug Discovery Laboratory, Department of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, Tufts University School of Medicine
“Perinatal mast cell activation by infectious, stress-related, environmental or allergic triggers can lead to release of pro-inflammatory and neurotoxic molecules, thus contributing to brain inflammation and ASD pathogenesis, at least in a subgroup of ASD patients.
2. Neuro-Inflammation, Blood-Brain Barrier, Seizures and Autism
Theoharis C Theoharides and Bodi Zhang
Molecular Immunopharmacology and Drug Discovery Laboratory, Department of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, Tufts University School of Medicine Boston
Many children with Autism Spectrum Diseases (ASD) present with seizure activity, but the pathogenesis is not understood.
Recent evidence indicates that neuro-inflammation could contribute to seizures.
We hypothesize that and mast cell activation due to allergic, environmental and/or stress triggers could lead to focal disruption of the blood-brain barrier and neuro-inflammation, thus contributing to the development of seizures.
Treating neuro-inflammation may be useful when anti-seizure medications are ineffective.
Surely there are no medical professionals that would argue against the treatment and care of severely disabled children ?
Perhaps its only 10% of ASD infants that are implicated through phenotype physiology and allergy.(perhaps it’s more). But that would still represent in the UK 700 children per annum in each birth cohort.
3. Back to Aaby and this very interesting non specific effects which is extraordinarily complex to decipher … (but which might be another hypothetical pathway) this time MMR might be ‘less protective ” than previous measles vaccine ? Which might fall in line with Paul’s research on maternal antibodies / infections (perhaps)
“A number of case-control studies from high-income countriessuggest that smallpox vaccination protect againstdiverse chronic conditions and cancers.
In a European study of people with malignant melanoma,
smallpox vaccination reduced the risk of developing malignant melanoma and smallpox vaccination improved survival among malignant melanoma patients who had been smallpox-vaccinated several years prior to diagnosis.
Considering these observations and our findings
from Guinea-Bissau, we wanted to study whether smallpox vaccine and BCG also had non-specific effects in a European setting.
Atopy, allergic rhinitis and asthma From an ecological perspective, the termination of smallpox vaccination in high-income countries coincided with an increased incidence of asthma.
We examined the occurrence of atopy, allergic rhinitis, and asthma among Danish women within a national birth cohort study.
Among the 1960 women for whom sera were available, 552 (28%) were classified as atopic; among the 1927 women with information on allergic rhinitis and asthma, 263 (14%) had allergic rhinitis, and 165 (9%) were cases of asthma.
Overall, smallpox vaccination was not associated with risk of atopy or allergic rhinitis compared to unvaccinated women.
However, smallpox vaccination was associated with an OR of asthma of 0.55 (0.30 to 1.00) adjusting for birth cohort, sibship size, age of the women’s mother at birth, and social class.
Hence, women who had received smallpox vaccination
were less likely to have asthma, an association previously not described (9).”
Now that was interesting.
Infectious disease hospitalisations
Through linking of the CSHRR to the Danish registry of hospitalisations we were able to determine infectious disease hospitalisation (N=765) for the 2039 individuals for whom we had determined vaccination status.
Preliminary analysis shows that BCG is associated with a lower risk of all-cause infectious disease hospitalization among women and a tendency towards smallpox-vaccinated subjects having a lower risk of all-cause infectious disease hospitalisation than subjects not vaccinated with these vaccines.
Smallpox-vaccinated subjects were less likely to have skin infections and BCG vaccinated subjects less likely to be hospitalised for sexually transmitted infections (STI) than unvaccinated individuals.
These observations are being pursued with studies of specific STIs including HIV-1.
The preliminary indications are that BCG protects women against HIV-1 infection (hazard ratio (HR) 0.30 (0.12-0.77)) whereas the effect for smallpox vaccine was smaller (HR=0.81 (0.24-2.73)).
…and so was that. Vaccines so many enigmatic results who’d have thought.
So another thought is – How do you design suffciently robust epidemiology to cover all the latest research found on vaccine non specific effects / gender differences / schedules and ASD phenotypes ?


pD
Thanks for the reply we seem to share common thoughts on this issue. To my mind there is a simple growing body of evidence that an environmental trigger/s which range from bacterial infection / viruses / maternal antibodies / allergens have a very real role in autism pathology that is surrounded by an ecological framework.
“The animal studies tell us unambiguously that immune system disturbances in early life can percolate up into behavioral changes”
These types of findings are being reflected in the neurosciences as well … particular times of vulnerability where ‘stress’ can change the developmental continuum of the brains developement leading to ‘permanent’ change.
http://www.fi.edu/learn/brain/stress.html
http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/22770.aspx
New research shows that exposure to stress in the neonatal intensive care unit (NICU) is associated with alterations in the brain structure and function of very preterm infants.
There’s lot of other research …
Question : If an infant suffers a long term environmental stress would this lead to autism ?
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Paul has this recent post …
http://infectiousbehavior.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/gi-bacteria-and-multiple-sclerosis/#comments
“An environmental stimulus to cause multiple sclerosis (MS) has been debated for years – usually viruses or bacteria. However, a new paper by Kerstin Berer and colleagues at the Max Planck Institute of Neurobiology in Martinsreid in Germany points to the commensal bacteria in the GI tract. Using the EAE mouse model of MS, they show that gut bacteria are essential for triggering the auto-immune attack on the central nervous system. ”
I added this …
https://sfari.org/news-and-opinion/news/2011/studies-implicate-gut-bacteria-in-autism
“Autism, with its constellation of behavioral and cognitive symptoms, might seem to be all in the brain. But intriguing new studies suggest that some aspects of the disorder might originate in the gut.
For decades, doctors have heard anecdotal reports that children with autism have frequent gastrointestinal problems, suffering from bloating, abdominal pain, constipation, diarrhea and more.
The latest research, conducted over the past several years, probes the controversial possibility that whatever is amiss in the gut is not just a symptom of autism, but one of the causes. The work is an offshoot of mounting scientific interest in the human microbiome, the stew of bacteria that make their homes in our gastrointestinal tracts.
A new study, published 31 January in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggests that these microbial residents may direct brain development, ultimately shaping behavior1.”


Of course this will stir up controversy because in 1998 … John Walker Smith et al…
“…we have noted important behavioural responses in several of the children when their intestinal pathology is treated. Plain radiography confirms severe constipation with acquired megarectum in almost all affected children, despite many receiving treatment for constipation. Most parents note a honeymoon period of behavioural improvement after the bowel preparation for colonoscopy and this is maintained if recurrent constipation can be prevented. Further cognitive improvement has occurred in response to aminosalicylates, provided that constipation is prevented.
Thus, we believe the report to be aimed at those involved in the care of autistic children, as a further indication that the intestine is involved; this is not apparent unless hunted for specifically by investigation, as simple as plain abdominal radiography or as invasive as colonoscopy. We re-emphasise the fact that there is a consistent pattern of gut inflammation in a high proportion of children within the broad autistic spectrum. Understanding the link between the bowel and the brain in autism may allow new insights into this devastating illness.”


Hi pD
Something you will probably be most interested in …
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22175527
“The aim of the study was to analyze cytokine profiles in amniotic fluid (AF) samples of children developing autism spectrum disorders (ASD) and controls, adjusting for maternal autoimmune disorders and maternal infections during pregnancy.
Methods. AF samples of 331 ASD cases and 698 controls were analyzed for inflammatory cytokines using Luminex xMAP technology utilizing a historic birth cohort. Clinical data were retrieved from nationwide registers, and case-control differences in AF cytokine levels were assessed using chi-square tests, logistic and tobit regression models.
Results.
1. Overall, individuals with ASD had significantly elevated AF levels of TNF-α and TNF-β compared to controls.
2. Analyzing individuals diagnosed only with ICD-10 codes yielded significantly elevated levels of IL-4, IL-10, TNF-α and TNF-β in ASD patients.
3. Restricting analysis to infantile autism cases showed significantly elevated levels of IL-4, TNF-α and TNF-β compared to controls with no psychiatric comorbidities.
4. Elevated levels of IL-6 and IL-5 were found in individuals with other childhood psychiatric disorders (OCPD) when compared to controls with no psychiatric comorbidities.
Conclusions.
AF samples of individuals with ASD or OCPD showed differential cytokine profiles compared to frequency-matched controls. Further studies to examine the specificity of the reported cytokine profiles in ASD and OCPD are required.”
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I think this pretty well finishes the evidence of immune system dysfunction in ASD. What was really interesting was the elevated levels found in other childhood psychiatric disorders.
That’s got some pretty big implications to my mind.
Three plausible theories were presented in “Expression Profiling of Autism Candidate Genes during Human Brain Development Implicates
Central Immune Signaling Pathways”
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0024691
“This considerable attention to the immune response in previous ASD research has resulted in two prevailing theories:
1. one suggests exogenous factor(s) stimulate neuro-inflammation during development,
2. while the other postulates autoimmune activation causes ASD pathology.
3. However, it is equally possible—as our results support—that the mutations described in ASD result in aberrant signaling regulation of immune cells during neurodevelopment.”
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Thoughts ?


http://www.plospathogens.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.ppat.1001190
Should the Human Microbiome Be Considered When Developing Vaccines?
Perhaps it should read – Should the human micrbiome be considered when administering vaccines ?
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http://www.epivax.com/blog/of-bugs-and-men-the-human-microbiome-immunome/
Of Bugs and Men: the Human Microbiome Immunome?
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I thought this article was quite good …
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v474/n7351/full/nature10213.html
Human nutrition, the gut microbiome and the immune system
“We are learning how our gut microbial communities and immune systems co-evolve during our lifespans, and how components of the microbiota affect the immune system. We are also obtaining more information about how our overall metabolic phenotypes (metabotypes) reflect myriad functions encoded in our human genomes and gut microbiomes. These observations raise the question of how the metabolism of foods we consume by the gut microbial community affects our immune systems.”


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It constantly amazes me the topics that the medical system appears to avoid. As the medical article that Patterson discussed on page 103 points out – it’s “urban legend” amongst parents of some autistic children that infections/fevers temporarily return their autistic children to normal temporarily.
In this country (New Zealand) it’s also “urban legend” amongst parents of some autistic children who have been “retrieved” using the methods which Dr Paul Offit condemns, along with their “false prophets”, that certain things will, within minutes of exposure, reduce some children back to non-comprehending, hand flapping babbling glossalalia, which the parents thought were behind them years ago.
One of those things are toxic sprays used on kiwi-fruit orchards (and you might have been under the misapprehension that NZ was clean and green? LOL snort!)
I have a friend with a (usually) retrieved ex-autistic child, who has an arrangement with the orchard next door. They ring her a few days before spraying, so that she can ship her child out of the area. I watched him literally disintegrate in front of my eyes, in 45 minutes.
However, the plus is that pycnogenol and vitamin C in HUGE doses, returns the child back to normal within about three hours, but has to be used continually during spraying.
Now her child, if he gets a cold, also regresses back into “autism” but not nearly as far as sprays throw him.
The medical profession isn’t the slightest bit interested in this either.
It’s also been interesting to talk to these autistic children during the times they have fever or an infection, and are “normal”. They can clearly describe the differences in what and how they feel when they are more “normal” and less “normal”.
If the medical profession would take seriously the comments of these children, maybe they would be able to look at immunological pathways, and perhaps “cure” autism. However, it’s not possible, becuase – with all due respect to Patterson, the reality is that immunologists really don’t understand the immune system at all.
http://stanmed.stanford.edu/2011summer/article7.html
The basis of immunology is sweeping assumptions, and the basis of vaccinology is even worse, so actually studying autism constructive remains in the realms of the “too hard” or “don’t want to” basket, because the medical profession hasn’t got a decent “handle” on the fundamental basics, even though parents are “conned” into thinking that they do.
Perhaps real scientists who know all this, and want to ask the hard questions, are scared of letting parents know exactly how little they know, and thereby being lumped, into a different “false prophet” basket.
It is ironic that most lay people who write on autism issues are so cowed into writing circuitously, and in a PC fashion, because of what happens to people like Ginger Taylor who have had enough of intellectual dishonesty.
It’s a sad state of the medical system, when what is said publicly by scientists as well…., or researched … is proscribed by the attitudes of people like Paul Offit and Gregory Poland, and the pharmaceutical industry.
Way back in 1983, JR Hampton wrote a (misguided) article in the British Medical Journal called “The end of Clinical Freedom” which related how so many treatments were instituted on hope, and studies only done later when they didn’t work, or caused problems. In the article he said, “Clinical freedom died accidentally, crushed between the rising cost of new forms of investigation and treatment and the financial limits inevitable in an economy that cannot expand indefinitely. Clinical freedom should, however, have been strangled long ago, for at best it was a cloak for ignorance and at worst an excuse for quackery. Clinical freedom was a myth that prevented true advance. We must welcome it’s demise and seize the opportunities now laid out before us.”
The problem is that pharmaceutical quackery and ignorance has got worse after the demise of clinical freedom, not better.
I believe he utterly missed the boat, because in handing permission to think to the domain of studies conducted by the pharmaceutical industry, and people who know very little about the immune system, such a move has pretty much stopped the medical system thinking at all outside the “gold standard” prescribed lines of dogma.
Little progress will be made until the medical academia regains what used to be considered their right – the right to speak their minds honestly – to criticise, to acknowledge ignorance, without fear of intimidation – wasn’t that once called “intellectual freedom”?


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May 12, 2011 at 5:21 pm
pD,
I just wanted to mention that I greatly enjoy your perspective on autism. If you don’t mind, I’d like to add a link to your page on my blog.
May 13, 2011 at 1:39 am
Hi Craig Willoughby –
Thanks for the kind words and stopping by my blog. I have no problems at all with you linking to my blog.
– pD